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Etzebeth cited for gouging

19th November 2012 16:51

Eben Etzebeth South Africa 2012

In hot water: Eben Etzebeth

Springbok lock Eben Etzebeth has been cited for making contact with the "eye or eye area" of Scotland fly-half Greig Laidlaw.

The alleged incident occurred in the second-half of South Africa's 21-10 victory at Murrayfield on Saturday.

21-year-old Etzebeth will appear before an International Rugby Board disciplinary hearing on Tuesday.

South Africa play England at Twickenham on Saturday.

The IRB's recommended sanctions for any player found guilty of 'eye-gouging' range from a low entry point of 12 weeks to a high entry point of 24 weeks with a maximum possible ban of three years.

Meanwhile, Argentina prop Juan Figallo has been cited for head-butting France captain Pascal Pape at the end of the Pumas' 39-22 defeat in Lille on Saturday.

Figallo's hearing is listed for Wednesday. Argentina face Ireland in Dublin on Saturday.

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Comments

new_j4a says...

yawn....even the coach and the senior players think Scotland are crap....can't you read? (The perfect team for thick little primary school teachers)....que another 2 pages of bile....ZZzzzz....

Posted 22:33 25th November 2012

Bambo says...

new_j4a - See, so little that you really know. My girlfriend is of French descent which explains my love of the French. Little she is but fat, non. Trim and pert. How is your own 'bag' lady today? My family is truly multicultural allowing me to support not just France but also England, Scotland and South Africa.

Our car park at school is all Audi, Merc and Landrover with not a Vauxhall in sight. Vauxhall. Hmmm. Your car brand of choice dates you to someone last active in the 1970's? So does your swinging sexual attitude to your mates. Yum yum!

Notice that the player bought you the drink and you share this here just moments after sneering at Scotland as perennial losers. You truly are a man of immense generosity and pleasantry. Did you tell him what you thought of them? Course not. As a wee man you'd have to carry your nose home in a bag (you probably carry a supply with you though in case you have a sexual encounter out and about, yes?)

Do you really tell your old teachers to 'piss off'? Course you don't. It's a fantasy.

This is probably all syphilitic in origin. After all, if you will go playing with your deviant pals as you claim then you will ultimately pay the price and antibiotic resistance will leave your brain a pock marked atrophied version of its once mighty self. Tell me that the sticky and encrusted keyboard you use to type your delusions on is yours alone and not shared with others in some hideous institution? What you have is most likely very catching.

Monsieur Partridge! Allez!

Posted 11:13 25th November 2012

new_j4a says...

@bimbo, feel free to stop any time you like....I asked you not to start this, but I am kind of enjoying winding you up....thinking about you peering to see over the steering wheel of your second hand Vauxhall, next to your fat little wife who both of you know could have done better, listening to the pair of near do well children you are not quite sure are yours....and then the rugby, the perennial losers Scotland causing you to throw your support behind the French so that occasionally you can support a winning team...(by the way, more "fantasy" ammunition for you....one of the Scottish internationals today bought me a beer last week....true, but scoff all you like....it just makes me smile....I have lots more stories like that) Oh and lastly, I shall treasure the label "deviant" from you ....I would settle for nothing less from a boring, thick, tight arsed little Scottish primary school teacher. By the way, my own school teachers used exactly the same label years ago....and these days I have the pleasure of telling them to piss off when they send requests for donations and support.

Posted 22:11 24th November 2012

Bambo says...

new_j4a - Ah ha. A man who admits he shares his sexual encounters with his mates (very naval, very traditional, as the late great K Williams used to cry with glee) and all it takes is a dose of antibiotics to remove the physical stain but, as you so ably evidence, the psychological damage lingers long. Is your nose still intact?

Finally, I feel neither of us need say any more (if you do you just look more and more awful and, perhaps, infected?!). You really are the very deviant you look for in others. You are projecting yourself on to others, old fellah, and it looks ugly.

Posted 20:02 24th November 2012

new_j4a says...

Anger? Me? Hardly. Its you who are filling pages. Love to your Mum. A course of penicillin was all me and my mates needed. (Sorry Jonathon isn't elite enough for you....loser)

Posted 19:07 24th November 2012

Bambo says...

new_j4a - I didn't know what 'two bagger' meant so I looked it up. As I commented below, what you say says so much about you. Knowledge of that simple little phrase tells me your life is largely lady free and lonely with only the occasional bagged up bird for company. Get a grip man. Get help.

You make no mention of my frontal lobe speculation so I recommend that is where you start. You can beat this (actually 'beat' is probably loaded with sinister sexual intent). You can overcome this (hmmm. Come. Scrub that too). You will triumph justice but you will have to do it on your own (Ahhh. Do it on your own. That's too real for you too, isn't it?). Damn, you sure are a tough cookie.

Posted 12:41 24th November 2012

Bambo says...

new_j4a - Hardly the elevated fora you have previously claimed access to. You have previously suggested/hinted at intimate chats with senior referees almost immediately after a match (see your RWC rants for a great read of fiction and/or read of delusion and fantasy).

Ah ha. The old 'mum' insult. Suggestions of inappropriate relations with children and now my dear old mum too. See 'deeply unpleasant' below and reflect. Your comments say nothing about me but so much about you.

1. Was your own childhood difficult? Even at your age childhood issues can persist (you seem to evidence this). Do seek some help. Remember, in most Western countries there is no statute of limitations so you might even have legal case.

2. Did you know your own mother? 'She' has cropped up before in comments you make. Lack of maternal love could explain a great deal about your anger issues and fear of others (French etc). Again, seek some help. Cognitive therapy could help you think your way out of the cul de sac of anger you inhabit. Tracking services could help you discover who she was (I know, I know, discovering she was a Lily in Calais will hurt but at least you might know what she looked like - actually, leave that route and stick with CT I don't want to make things worse, I suspect the last thing you need is to realise your physog stems from a poxy harlot).

3. Do you drink early in the day? Do you stop? Are you Kumala Western Cape only and driven to rage by a Bordeaux or a perky beaujolais?

Calais then Bordeaux?! Only a wee leap to ............Allez les bleus! Pip pip. Keep gulping the dried frog pills and swilling from the Electric Kool Aid tank, old fellah.

Posted 09:38 24th November 2012

new_j4a says...

Frustrated? Me? Hardly. Ask the two bagger you call Mum.

Posted 21:29 23rd November 2012

new_j4a says...

....yawn....here's just a few "shady international referee 'fora' that you consult but cannot cite:"

http://www.sareferees.com/ref-replies/duty-ref-432--jonathan-kaplan/2829560/

http://www.edinburgh.rugbyrefs.org/index.php/List-forums/List-forums/

http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forumdisplay.php?67-Elite-Referee-Questions

http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forumdisplay.php?97-Southern-Hemisphere-Pro-Rugby-

Posted 21:28 23rd November 2012

Bambo says...

new_j4a - You are a deeply unpleasant and worrying man. You take a rugby debate and turn it in to something sinister. Are you sexually frustrated? Probably. Have you suffered some frontal lobe damage tumbling out of your lonely bed? Probably. Seek attention old fellah. Perhaps your delusional flights of fancy (fictional 'irb' statements, shady international referee 'fora' that you consult but cannot cite, a fear of 'the foreigner' etc etc) could all be dealt with. I wish you all the very best, none of this is your fault.

Posted 20:31 22nd November 2012

new_j4a says...

@bimbo, I am not going to argue with an intellectually challenged little bantam cock who mangles logic every time he descends into a pencil sucking, brow furrowed attempt to appear more than an underpaid little primary school teacher. Why don't all the grownups go back to rugby and you go back to tucking in their little rugby jerseys and whatever else gets you up...in the morning.

Posted 07:15 22nd November 2012

Bambo says...

new_j4a - Quote - 'The irb and most people who know anything about the game accept that the French were unlucky not to win but that the ref was fine'.

Has the IRB really made such declarations? Can you direct me to where 'the irb' (sic) say the French were 'unlucky not to win'? An amazing statement and one that undermines the actual winners and the competition (ergo NZ were 'lucky' in the RWC final is the logical opposite from the 'irb').

Are you making things up....again?! Is 'new' just as consistently inconsistent as the 'old'?

Fin.

Posted 23:15 21st November 2012

Bambo says...

new_j4a aka Justice_4_all - 'Bimbo', priceless! In that one corruption of my poster name you say so little and yet, paradoxically, you say so much...about yourself. One word - childish.

Coincidentally, knowing that I, as a teacher, work with children you then see fit to allude to some deeply unpleasant motivation on my behalf for working with children (dimly you fail to see that you also slur all others in child focused professions - psychologists, nurses, doctors...rugby coaches, rugby referees!). This is why I and others see hypocrisy and a character destined to let down the global sport he claims to love (the kids in my class read PR BUT I don't let them see the comments - your comments, and others, aren't too pleasant and would seem deeply ugly repeated by a young person - see numerous French slurs).

Never defended gouging. Fact. Always faced up to crude nationalism and ignorance. Fact.

Great that Etzebeth is allowed to continue playing. Fact.

Posted 22:09 21st November 2012

new_j4a says...

@APV1 i don't expect j4EE will be necessary...nice lad, completely innocent, hopefully will play the game cleanly and decently...like Victor M.

Posted 18:05 21st November 2012

darthbok says...

sorry -- wrong ! -- didnt realise one or 2 people have been blinded in 1 eye thro gouging -- anything can happen in amateur rugby and often the injuries are far worse than professional rugby- would rather live my live with one eye than a serious neck injury / head injury -- A friend of mine is a top level surgeon and he is blind in 1 eye - anyway still think there should be far more evidence before a player is `cited` -- the citing officer is a dumb ass fool

Posted 14:25 21st November 2012

APV1 says...

@ Stellenbosched2 - I have replied to his question, with a simple "No idea." Sounds a bit like another conspiricy theory to me, though...

And I only commented on BA's nonsense, as it was the only comment on the board at the time. I have mentioned others since though, albeit not specifically.

Looks like EE's going to play, and here's to a cracking match, eh?!

@ new_j4a - I think the issue with the lack of citing in the "Gougerie" case, was the limitations and restrictions surrounding who can cite an issue and the timescale. I suspect the NZers were a little pre-occupied with their celebrations, so let it lie. Perhaps they also didn't want to appear ungracious in victory... Who knows?

And is the "J4" transferable to EE, as and when necessary..?

;-)

Posted 10:39 21st November 2012

new_j4a says...

@bimbo, Yes case closed. My original argument with you was about Craig Joubert's reffing of the final. That case is now closed. The irb and most people who know anything about the game accept that the French were unlucky not to win but that the ref was fine. You lost that argument rather solidly and on the way exposed massive ignorance of the game.

Now the gouging, there is clear evidence that Rougerie gouged McCaw but was never cited. He should have been punished. You defended him to your everlasting shame.... And in this case? It turns out that he is not guilty. BUT, unlike you who defend eye gouging, I would have been happy to see him banned for a year or more if he had done the deed.

Our other discussions revolved around your Peter Pan like need to be around small boys ....is it that they do not challenge your rather limited intellect...or something else?

Posted 07:57 21st November 2012

Stellenbosched2 says...

Hi APV1

I didn't think it possible, but you have beaten BA to the post this week with the dumbest....post. Funny how all are having a go at BA, yet leave jonesy2 alone.

Spartacus you have said it all for me. I see APV1 hasn't bothered to reply to your question about the timing of this non-event and how it is in Englands interests to cause the upheaval. Of course he won't.

Posted 05:15 21st November 2012

LeftRightOut says...

So Etzebeth has been cleared. Can the SA moaners (yes I know they are a minority) stop whining about conspiracies? If you play dirty, expect to be caught and punished. If you play clean, expect no punishment. Sometimes you will be accused and cleared, sometimes you will get away with it. Don't blame the IRB for trying to crack down on infringements, and keep your negativity to yourselves. The world is not ganging up on you so stop trying to make enemies

Posted 23:50 20th November 2012

Spartacus says...

@newj4a - absolutely no idea what you are talking about, but you you seem to be calling me a hypocrite and a racist based upon nothing but your own (racist) profiling based upon what you think you know about me.

@APV1 - I tried posting some comments about you, ending with the same get out clause sentence. Funnily enough, PR blocked this, whilst leaving your offensive racist post for all to see. By all means go for BokAvenger, but first ask PR to remove your comments

Posted 23:33 20th November 2012

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