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Preview: Argentina v New Zealand

28th September 2012 08:05

All Blacks doing scrum drills

Almost there: New Zealand

It will by no means be a stroll to 2012's Rugby Championship trophy for the All Blacks when they take on the Pumas at Estadio Único Ciudad de La Plata.

Granted they are hot favourites to wrap up the title a week ahead of schedule. But as we saw in the reverse, Los Pumas can cause them problems.

What adds further fuel to that outlook - something that's already been highlighted by our prediction man - is that All Blacks coach Steve Hansen criticised Argentina this week for their thwarting tactics against them. What a fillip that is for the hosts, knowing they have him openly worried.

So don't expect them to stray from that style this Saturday, with a forward battle set to be played out while Juan Martin Hernandez and Dan Carter collide. Carter, alongside Aaron Smith, will be looking to impose a quick tempo on proceedings while El Mago and Martin Landajo go for territory. Despite the fact Smith has now paid his dues for breaking a curfew, one feels that going for Piri Weepu over the quicker Smith would have played into Puma hands. Therefore, expect more threats in the backs than previous visitors to Argentina, South Africa, who this week face Australia.

Yes, I hold my hands up to going for Argentina to prevail by two points against the Wallabies on the Gold Coast, but hopefully their performance has created a few more believers.

A boost to their cause is the return of Marcos Ayerza to bench duty, which arguably frees up Rodrigo Roncero to put in another of those 50 minute barnstormers. Ayerza was absent last time out and it came as a double blow in some respects as Roncero played for longer, subsequently thinning out his impact. Such is the boost that we are going for the veteran's battle with Owen Franks as our head-to-head, with both props having solid tournaments.

Ayerza is joined on the bench by Tomas Vallejos in the only changes made by head coach Santiago Phelan for their penultimate outing before they watch the Jaguars (second XV) in their upcoming Americas Rugby Championship, which takes place in Canada. That will be where the Pumas will hope to build up a squad depth for future campaigns, which look exceedingly bright following what has been an impressive debut term with the big boys.

Of course there's a long journey ahead until they can be challenging year-in-year-out with the probable champs. But now that they have the sure footing of the Rugby Championship to begin their ascent up the standings, those Hansen headaches are expected to become a regular occurrence. Hansen won't need the Nurofen just yet though, as it is a measure of these special All Blacks that their 14-game unbeaten run exudes an air of dissatisfaction.

A title with a round to spare might help with that.

Ones to watch:

For Argentina: While the likes of number eight Juan Martin Fernandez Lobbe and loosehead Rodrigo Roncero have stood out up front, centre Marcelo Bosch and right wing Gonzalo Camacho are two of the men typifying this Pumas debut season in the Rugby Championship. Bosch has covered well and communicated superbly defensively and his battle with Conrad Smith sees two similar players collide. But it is the threat Camacho poses on the wing that Argentina will hope is prominent in Buenos Aires. Exeter will be proud of their man and want him to bring this form back with him for the Heineken Cup.

For New Zealand: He's baaaaack! New Zealand's maestro is back after missing his side's previous two wins over the Pumas and Boks due to a calf injury and the timing couldn't be better. Whilst Aaron Cruden did an admirable job in Dan Carter's absence, it's clear the world champs have missed their number one pivot, who brings a wealth of experience and is a more composed presence in the number ten jersey. The 30-year-old will start in his 90th Test, as the All Blacks vice-captain closes in on his international century.

Head-to-head: As mentioned in the body of this preview, Rodrigo Roncero against Owen Franks whets the appetite. Two props who are at opposite ends of their careers meet on Saturday in what could provide valuable on-the-job training for the Cantabrian. Roncero has just two games left in his Test career yet his tackle count for each of his four Rugby Championship appearances thus far has him making over ten tackles. Should be good.

Previous results:

2012: New Zealand won 21-5 in Wellington
2011: New Zealand won 33-10 in Auckland (RWC)
2006: New Zealand won 25-19 in Buenos Aires
2004: New Zealand won 41-7 in Hamilton
2001: New Zealand won 24-20 in Buenos Aires
2001: New Zealand won 67-19 in Christchurch
1997: New Zealand won 62-10 in Hamilton
1997: New Zealand won 93-8 in Wellington
1991: New Zealand won 36-6 in Buenos Aires
1991: New Zealand won 28-14 in Buenos Aires
1989: New Zealand won 49-12 in Wellington

Prediction: Oodles of passion with a great deal of entertainment but the special day will not result in a victory for Argentina. New Zealand have too much class wider out - win by 10!

The teams:

Argentina: 15 Lucas Gonzalez Amorosino, 14 Gonzalo Camacho, 13 Marcelo Bosch, 12 Santiago Fernandez, 11 Horacio Agulla, 10 Juan Martin Hernandez, 9 Martin Landajo, 8 Juan Martin Fernandez Lobbe (c), 7 Juan Manuel Leguizamon, 6 Julio Farias Cabello, 5 Patricio Albacete, 4 Manuel Carizza, 3 Juan Figallo, 2 Eusebio Guinazu, 1 Rodrigo Roncero.
Replacements: 16 Agustin Creevy, 17 Marcos Ayerza, 18 Tomas Vallejos, 19 Tomas Leonardi, 20 Nicolas Vergallo, 21 Martin Rodriguez, 22 Juan Imhoff.

New Zealand: 15 Israel Dagg, 14 Cory Jane, 13 Conrad Smith, 12 Ma'a Nonu, 11 Julian Savea, 10 Daniel Carter, 9 Aaron Smith, 8 Kieran Read, 7 Richie McCaw (c), 6 Liam Messam, 5 Sam Whitelock, 4 Luke Romano, 3 Owen Franks, 2 Andrew Hore, 1 Tony Woodcock.
Replacements: 16 Keven Mealamu, 17 Charlie Faumuina, 18 Brodie Retallick, 19 Sam Cane, 20 Piri Weepu, 21 Aaron Cruden, 22 Ben Smith.

Date: Saturday, September 29
Kick-off: 20:10 local (00:10 BST, 23:10 GMT)
Venue: Estadio Único Ciudad de La Plata
Referee: Jaco Peyper (South Africa)
Assistant referees: Craig Joubert (South Africa), Pascal Gauzere (France)
Television match official: Francisco Pastrana

By Adam Kyriacou

Comments

Manchesterlad says...

Came back early from Montreal to watch this game, it's going to be a cracker ......La Plata is the closest thing they have to a national stadium so expect a capacity crowd full of national pride.

I lost my bet in Mendoza but my money is still on Los Pumas by 3 points ....as a true rugby fan I can't help but get caught up in all the fervour, Vamos carajo vamos !!!

Posted 14:07 28th September 2012

Terry_English says...

Andy1000 - don't be fooled by those close results in Argentina. They were understrength All Black teams. Dan Carter's return is worth 10 points on its own. Close at half time but the All Blacks to score pull away and win by 15.

Posted 13:03 28th September 2012

Terry_English says...

Andy1000 - don't be fooled by those close results in Argentina. They were understrength All Black teams. Dan Carter's return is worth 10 points on its own. Close at half time but the All Blacks to score pull away and win by 15.

Posted 12:40 28th September 2012

Propmelsey says...

If the Ref has the backbone to penalise the All Blacks for foul play at nearly every breakdown, to the point where he gets his little yellow card out, then the Argies have a genuine chance. If the ref only penalises the Argies then they have NO CHANCE. With a strong ref .. Argentina by about 9 - 12 points.

Posted 12:37 28th September 2012

JayStarr says...

Wow... If their game in NZ is anything to go by, this is going to be a MIGHTY interesting one! Argentina was in a position to win that game for three quarters of the match... and there are very, very few teams in the world who can say that against the All Blacks in NZ... (just look at what happened to Australia).

What we also know is how tough it is to play Argentina in Argentina... as the Boks found out the hard way...

I suppose one couldn't ignore the return of Dan Carter... but then one also couldn't ignore his lack of game time lately - and the fact that Graham Henry knows him inside out. So how comfortable will he be able to get in that noisy cauldron..?

This is a very impressive All Black line-up, no doubt. But Argentina made no changes whatsoever (and everyone thought they'd be weakened with injuries by now)... I think the self-belief this team has gained in their last 3 matches will count massively now that they are back home. The All Blacks will know they need to come out firing - and they'll certainly talk about it... but there is only one team who will REALLY come out firing in this one - Argentina.

I won't go as far as predicting Argentina to win, but I do expect them to lead at some point. They will come close, but the All Blacks' experience and tenacity will probably help them find a way in the end.

Whatever the result, this one is bound to be a CLASSIC!

Posted 12:28 28th September 2012

rugbylover says...

@Scrumpoacher

Don't worry about winning all the time - those pesky Kiwis play an exciting game of rugby [do you actually know the game?].

If it's boring for you ...............

Don't watch! Simples!

Posted 11:59 28th September 2012

rugbylover says...

@Carpelone

"The Argies could sneak this or, at least, give NZ a run for their money"

Gosh! How perceptive are you!

Posted 11:56 28th September 2012

SACanuck says...

AB's by 10, but looking forward to the Agies giving the AB's a tough day at the office. Hope ref treats both teams equally when they slow the ball down.

Posted 11:28 28th September 2012

ruckingkiwi says...

A win this week will wrap up the championship and give the boys a chance to run the Bs for next weeks game. Then again, a loss or a closely fought affair will leave the AB supporters demanding more. Either way I'd expect NZ to get some form together at some point, surely we cannot be as bad as last match?? All the best to Argentina but NZ by 12

Posted 11:16 28th September 2012

Bones7 says...

I think Argentina have proved what I have always thought - that a brutal and direct game plan through the pack isn't necessarily boring, as some would have us believe, providing it is done properly. South Africa have gone for a similar approach with less efficiency and dynamism and it has been awful to watch, whereas watching the Argies pummelling experienced international forwards with flagrant disregard for their star status has been brilliant! I don't know whether they have the big game experience yet as a squad or a strong enough 22 to beat the ABs at this stage but they will definitely be competitive and above all else they will be horrible to play against

Posted 11:00 28th September 2012

Trinats2 says...

Full strength Kiwi side by 30+

Posted 10:46 28th September 2012

Euskadi says...

ABs by 12

Posted 10:33 28th September 2012

Andy1000 says...

Check out those results in Argentina, a few years apart but very close each time.

Earlier this week Richard Loe said his memory of playing there in 91 was Sean Fitzpatricks back being almost white from being spat at by the crowd as they walked out. Crazy.

Posted 10:03 28th September 2012

MadTripa says...

I could perfectly deal with a 20 - 18 for Argentina...

The party is just coming.

Wecome to La Plata fellas.

VAMOS PUMAS VAMOS ...!

Posted 09:51 28th September 2012

ABlack says...

AB's by 15ish if the ref actually refs the game

Posted 09:47 28th September 2012

powerplay says...

Cater is back, but then its in Argentina..it will be awesome to watch,,,

Posted 09:24 28th September 2012

rugby_rockstar says...

Yeah, you can't look further than NZ. But I've really enjoyed watched Argentina play 15 man rugby and by that I'm talking about Backs and Forwards doing their bread and butter roles. The first match in SA was a tad negative but since then I think they have provided the most enjoyable matches from every other round of the tournament. The draw vs SA was brilliant. They fought bravely against the Mighty All Blacks in the lion's den. They scored the try of the championship in Australia. Their inclusion is already an resounding sucess!!!!

Posted 09:18 28th September 2012

Scrumpoacher says...

Hope the argies win, it's boring watching the kiwis win all the time

Posted 09:18 28th September 2012

makemehappy says...

Argentina were lucky that the conditions suited them in New Zealand and that they weren't shown more yellow cards. NZ by 20ish providing the weather is reasonable and the ref actually referees.

Posted 09:02 28th September 2012

Carpelone says...

I have some funny feeling about this game.....

The Argies could sneak this or, at least, give NZ a run for their money.

Much tighter than PR predicts, imo.

Smart money on Argentina with handicap.

Posted 08:41 28th September 2012

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