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The Cobus Visagie column

03rd October 2012 16:08

Cobus visagioe column 6 2012

DC: The greatest...ever?

Former Springbok prop Cobus Visagie shares his thoughts on the Rugby Championship in the sixth installment of a series of exclusive columns for Planet Rugby.

The late Danie Craven was asked once which position is the most important in a rugby team. His answer was that his tighthead prop is always the first player on the team sheet. He was then asked which position is the second most important to which he answered: the reserve tighthead prop.

Even as a man who played the position for more than a quarter of a century and who finds great satisfaction in analysing the intricacies of the battle between two packs of eight angry men, I have to admit that it is not the case anymore. The sad thing is that between the rule makers and the pressure from rugby illiterate television audiences that would prefer to not even see a scrum or the setup of a scrum, the importance of the set piece has been eroded over the last decade to the point where it is almost negligible compared to other aspects of the game. Part of the problem is that at the moment there is not a single recognised commentator who has played in the front row and who can give any credible explanation or insight into what is happening in the darkest of battles in any professional sport in the world. If people don't understand, they cannot appreciate the battle.

We can probably sit and debate this all day long, but my position is that the scrum is a very unique aspect of rugby that is fundamental to making it a game for all body shapes. It is a foundational part of the central equation that every coach needs to deal with to calculate the balance of speed and power in the composition of a team. The current situation is that a coach only needs to ensure that his pack can stand its ground, because it will only come back to bite you if you are seriously exposed. If every coach at every age level selected according to this philosophy, you are just creating a position for overweight loose forwards. Robbie Deans is in exactly this position this week - his hand has been forced to select four locks, with Sitaleki Timani being moved to the side of the scrum for extra security at scrum time. They will surely pay for this over the course of the game in terms of speed to the break down.

To be honest I have reached my wits end with the Australian front row and their survival tactics. They have perfected the front row jack knife. How a referee cannot pick up on the most fundamental scrum law - that you have to scrum with your shoulders above your hips - frustrates me endlessly. In the end they nullify the opposition's power, because they need to scrum upwards to just be able to stay on their feet. But there is justice in this world - sometimes - and they got seriously caught out this weekend with their sneaky plan to do multiple tactical front row substitutions and you have to give referee Roland credit that he picked up they exceeded their maximum substitutions.

A more important fact which this past weekend's games underlined was that the most important position on the field is the fly-half - and possibly your second most important position is your scrum-half. The return of Dan Carter was immense in unlocking the flow and potential of the All Black attack. Even though the All Blacks were stunned early on by the Argentinean attack, Carter took control of the game and annihilated the most passionate rugby team on the face of the planet at the moment, with precision and calm. He has lost none of his speed after his groin injury and it is clear that even the vastly experienced and immensely talented players around him thrive on playing with the most complete fly-half the world has seen. I believe the 2012 All Black team is a better team than the 2011 version and the main catalyst for the next level they have reached is Aaron Smith.

In the other game the arrival of the talented 20-year-old Johan Goosen transformed the Springbok attack, as many predicted. He is the real deal. The enormity of the occasion had the potential to destroy the confidence of a very talented young player, as was the case with Gaffie du Toit, but the composure he showed was way beyond his years. It is early days, but if ever South Africa had the player to challenge the supremacy of Dan Carter, the Goose is probably the man to do it. I do, however, need to mention, that the Wallabies made a massive error with their selection at fly-half and it was part of a series of management decisions that gifted the game to the Springboks in many ways.

You have to give credit to Ruan Pienaar (in the 2nd most important position) for the way he protected his Grey College junior. Pienaar seems to thrive when given more control and responsibility over the game - his performances for Ulster are testament to the fact. On the other, hand Australia has been found wanting since the injury of Will Genia who basically managed the team. (Quade Cooper absence didn't help either).

It is going to be a really special Test match in Soweto on Saturday, but I am very wary of South Africa's ability to stay on top of the game in the last quarter of the match. Even when the Wallabies were one man down in the last 10 minutes, the Springbok defence look lethargic and slow to get into position. It will cost them dearly against the All Blacks. A further problem in predicting the outcome of Saturday's game is that the All Blacks are chasing their 16th consecutive Test match victory and although they may deny that it is not on their radar to become the greatest rugby team of all time, I am sure Richie McCaw will move heaven and earth to achieve this accolade before taking time out for his sabbatical.

I would prefer more aggressive and agile players on the Springbok bench, like Craig Burden, who will play to the ball in the last 20 minutes of the game to slow it down. He would also be able to cover for the heavyweights who, out of necessity, have to stay on the field for the full 80 minutes. The All Blacks are favourites, because they have shown they can play the full 80 minutes and have the ability to even shift gears in the dying moments of the game. But one thing is for sure, the Springboks have lifted their heads and have confidence in their young general at fly-half.

The Aussies are playing without their regular generals and their pack looks unbalanced. At the Estadio Gigante de Arroyito this weekend we may just see the Pumas take a well-deserved scalp on home soil, which have so cruelly evaded them in the last number of games. But they will have to look after their possession and not kick away freebies to a hungry Wallaby back three.

Until next week, cheers!

Cobus

Follow Cobus on Twitter: @Drieman3

Visagie earned 29 caps for his country and was the cornerstone of the Springbok team that reached the 1999 World Cup semi-finals. He earned the nickname "Drieman", or three man, because he played number 3 and scrummed like three men. He won four Currie Cups with Western Province and earned 43 Super 12 caps with the Stormers.

In 2003 Visagie moved to London to join Saracens for whom he played in 121 games and was voted in the Premiership Team of the Season for three consecutive years.

Comments

alex_babbler says...

Good column. I would point out, like Melkdave did that Brian Moore does commentate for the BBC and is very vocal in his opinions around the scrum. However Melkdave he didn't win the world cup, he was in the '95 world cup not '03.

Goosen played well for the Boks but it will be interesting to see how the new look Bokke backline do against a more aggressive AB defence. The Puma's seemed to be put under a large amount of pressure by Smith and Nonu and I wonder how Jaco Taute will deal with this.

I disagree that KB had a bad game for the Wallabies, I felt he was the only player sparking any real attacking threat. His tactical kicking put the Wallabies in offensive positions that their pack and outside backs couldn't take advantage of. I know it's unfashionable, especially here in SA where everyone thinks Australia is the "great satan" but I really feel sorry for the Aussies, there whole team is injured!

Posted 06:36 04th October 2012

porridge_time says...

Again annother good column,but i think his forgotten B.Moore who commentates on the BBC during the 6Ns ,he was a class hooker RWC winner noless and knows what goes on in the frontrow.

Brian Moore does not have a world cup winners medal!

Posted 06:22 04th October 2012

sukkadoits says...

Alas in NZ we lament the passing of the late John Drake for his wise insight come scrum time. Instead we have the town fool Justin Marshall belittling the trench warfare that is the scrum, even though it is largely the place where the game is won and lost. Cobus, don't despair, with the new prop substitution rules the real value of props is again being realised.

Posted 05:06 04th October 2012

oldschool says...

"But there is justice in this world - sometimes - and they got seriously caught out this weekend with their sneaky plan to do multiple tactical front row substitutions and you have to give referee Roland credit that he picked up they exceeded their maximum substitutions."

Cobus etal. It is time to take off the blinkers you clowns. Granted, the Wallabies still have a weaker scrum compared to other top tier nations however, after the massacre(s) at the hands of the poms a few years back (as an Aussie - OUCH!!) the team have worked hard in this space to the point where we generally manage to hold our own against perceived stronger nations. Maybe you guys should look at yourselves and your ignorant rantings rather than wondering when the referees will catch on - the refs already have caught on to the fact that the Wallaby scrum is now not that far behind, and recognise the work we have out in and associated results.

Also, don't get too far ahead of yourselves with your bleating and congratulating of Roland re the substitute fiasco, as the IRB have released a statement informing that the referee and his team GOT IT WRONG. When are you lot going to be big enough to admit the same...

Posted 04:47 04th October 2012

Tyler_Durden says...

Melldave - Brian Moore is many things but he is definitely not a RWC winner. Beaten finalist, but not winner.

Posted 04:24 04th October 2012

Oceansnz says...

Phil Kearns?

Posted 01:48 04th October 2012

powerplay says...

Nice insights into the dark arts of the front row..

For once som1 who knows about scrums..a change from the multiple refs guessing all the time..

Posted 00:44 04th October 2012

Sothereiwas says...

Great article! I enjoy reading your opinions Cobus. You prove that front rowers are the most intelligent rugby players! :)

Posted 22:45 03rd October 2012

scot_rsa says...

Great reading again Cobus. As an ex-back the scrum is still a mystery but I'm loving the rolling maul and the Boks exploitation of this tactic. Real rugby.

Posted 21:32 03rd October 2012

Jako says...

@melkdave brian moore, great comentator as he is, is not a world cup winner

Posted 21:28 03rd October 2012

Storm says...

Hugo Porta was a magnificent flyhalf who is at the top table when it comes down to discussing the "greatest".

The fundamental differences between Porta and Dan Carter is the All Blacks. DC plays for the ABs machine and Porta was the Pumas magician who beguiled without a supporting cast.

Enjoyed the column from one of the piano movers.

Posted 18:47 03rd October 2012

leebok says...

@Melkdave

"Again another good column,but i think his forgotten B.Moore who commentates on the BBC during the 6Ns ,he was a class hooker RWC winner noless and knows what goes on in the frontrow"

I dont believe Moore won the RWC and he is a price idiot and useless at commentating. Far too biased.

Posted 18:35 03rd October 2012

APV1 says...

Brian Moore (BBC) and Phil Vickery (2011 RWC). Remember them..?

Otherwise, it's a pretty good article.

I agree that the importance of the scrum has been diluted. There are many factors, not least the "cheating by collapsing" as suggested. But whilst the refs continue to allow the 9 to feed into the 2R - thus negating the hooker's role and making it much tougher to win a scrum against the head - the rest is, imo, moot.

10 is now a more important position and they need to be an absolute all-rounder:

Kick, pass, tackle, ruck, maul and run.

DC is currently the best in the world at this and I mentioned how good it was to see him run again on another thread. His vision and ability to put his team-mates into space and / or the ball into the right part of the pitch is awesome. He's no slouch in the tackle or at the breakdown either, unlike some nampy-pampy 10s who've shied away fom the more physical parts of the game. Was JW better in his pomp? That's a debate for another thread on another day...

Posted 18:14 03rd October 2012

melkdave says...

Again annother good column,but i think his forgotten B.Moore who commentates on the BBC during the 6Ns ,he was a class hooker RWC winner noless and knows what goes on in the frontrow.He also regually critasises referees come scrumtime ,for missing this or that..I have to totally agree though about his comments on the wallaby frontrow CHEATS every scrum ,espically on their put in when they always eat dirt.To avoid being wheeled /pushed off the ball ect.Referees really do need to pick up on these blatant tatics imo.As to FH being the most important position ,yes these days its true,and has been for sometime really D.Carter is just sheer class ,and J.Goosen has alot of potential along with other FHs around the world G.Ford J.Sexton D.Bigger ect..It should be a cracking game at Soweto ,but in the end i think the ABs with their overall class advantage and 15 man style will win by 5-8 points..The Australia -Argentina game ,well theres an oppotunity for the pumas ,and no mistake.Australia are depleted and in disarray,and K.Beale for all his attacking endevours is badly let down by the tootthless forwards ,who cant sucure any ball at all ,by the looks of it.I expect the pumas to be more agressive this game in defence ,and for their forwards to just pullverise the wallaby pack,before releasing their backs ,who have showed they can play to..Ill be surprised if the pumas dont win and win well by 10-15 points if im honest.Then we can all expect more calls for R.Deans head from oz posters,,even though the present situation has nothing to do with him.His just the poor bloke having to deal with it ,and carrying the can for it.,because of their chromic lack of quality depth.

Posted 16:56 03rd October 2012

craigsman says...

Clearly you turn the sound off when you hear Pitbull commentating ;-)

Otherwise agree with this article.

Posted 16:52 03rd October 2012

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