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@ paddy91317 - Cocky fan boys lol?
Didn't realise you were in the starting line-up & not actually a fan of the Irish side.
Of course we are going to be cocky (confident & expectant by my definition), we have a team that lives & dies for the jersey & a team that has never lost to Ireland.
I'm not underestimating Ireland at all & I'm not saying they can't win but it's not easy being humble when you support a team like the AB's. If you open your mind you would be able to appreciate that.
Posted 12:40 07th June 2012
Where is Andrew Trimble!?
You've got to be 'Kid-ney-ing' me!!!
Posted 12:35 07th June 2012
The scrum will get destroyed, so all this talk about combinations in the back line could be pointless !
Posted 12:31 07th June 2012
I would'nt be surprised to see BOD play at 12, and having time to digest the team I think he should have gone with Reddan at 9 as it looks like a team selection thats gonna play at pace especially when the Pack have a very mobile look to them.
Fingers and everythinhg else crossed for Declan Fitz, its about time he had his chance (altough unlike T Court, Ronan Loughney can actually play both sides of the scrum).
Basically when it comes to Deccie's mindset we are all in agreement that its maddening to say the least. But he's made his choices, so lets get behind the men taking to the field on Saturday and hope there is as many Irish at the game as there were during the World Cup.
Ni neart go cur le cheile (there is no strength without unity)
Posted 12:27 07th June 2012
I can see a few people have already jumped on the supposed mismatch of SBW and Keith Earls so don't need to say anything more there. I don't know fitzgerald very well, but that frightens me that a debutant prop is being thrown in to face the All blacks. Still, here's hoping it's competitive at least!!!!
Posted 11:45 07th June 2012
Why is Murray playing? We need quick ruck ball against the All Blacks. Get Reddan in, for god's sake.
Fitzpatrick did well in the HEC semi v Edinburgh but he's really being thrown into the lion's den here. Could make for painful viewing.
Posted 11:44 07th June 2012
I'm a firm believer that Kidney is an absolute joke-merchant. We've been begging him for years to pick a non-conservative team, and now he's gone and done that - but picked the wrong team for this game! Kidney had plenty of opportunity to pick the best team... If he wanted to 'experiment' he could've done this (provided he brought the right team):
15. R Kearney
14. F. McFadden
13. D. Cave
12. B. O'Driscoll
11. K. Earls
10. J. Sexton
09. E. Reddan
08. J. Heaslip
07. S. O'Brien
06. P. O'Mahoney
05. D. Touhy
04. D. Ryan
02. R. Best
01. C. Healy
16. S. Cronin
17. T. Court
19. K. McLaughlin
22. D. Kearney/Gilroy
Note on selections:
Let's face it, we all know BOD, whilst in prime form, have developed all the attributes of a 2nd 5/8 lately - an ability to break the gain line, a lovely short pass and offload, able to read an attacking gain line and stop it dead, and as always he's king over the ball and utterly regardless for his own safety at the breakdown. He hasn't the gas to make those line breaks anymore, and his long pass has imo suffered. He should be tried at 12. Plus it also makes way for D. Cave who is the next best successor for the 13 jersey imo.
Also it puts Earls back in his most dangerous position - wearing 11 imo. With a bit of space the man is lethal, but defensively he's suspect at 13, never mind 12. Has he ever played 12 before? Not that I can recall. He did a good job at 13 for the 6N, but I think Cave would do better.
Sexton and Reddan need to start together. It's no coincidence that our best games (Aus 2011 and Eng 2011) had these two at the helm. Putting Sexton and Murray together is like putting Cooper with Mike Phillips. They cancel each other out.
The pack picks itself - although I'm still worried about DOC on the bench, and I'd have D. Kearns because he can cover FB also.
Posted 11:44 07th June 2012
of course just as i post i realise earls will actually play at 13. at this stage no one in the world can be on the same team as bod and wear 13
Posted 11:37 07th June 2012
I like that Kidney has for a change decided not to be entirely conservative and gone with some form selections. I think last week against and baa baa's showed that Kidney cannot be too generous in handing out new caps or risk getting absolutely demolished by the All Blacks. If we had Bowe fit to put in centre at either 12 against SBW or 13 and have Drico in 12 (with earls or on the wing and Mc fadden on the bench), Ferris on instead of O Mahony and of course Ross in the scrum I reckon we could have put a good game to New Zealand. I agree that this is possibly the first form selection we have seen (subject to a lot of injuries) but I don't think this will be enough to trouble to depth and quality of the all blacks. Psychologically losing plays like O Connell, Ferris and Bowe is crushing. For me the Jury is still out on Zebo, I think his handling and defense are very below par but I agree with giving him this shot to prove himself - the ultimate test to answer his critics (me included). If Zebo doesn't stand up it's time to give Gilroy his day in the sun.
Posted 11:34 07th June 2012
i knew it, i absolutely knew it. if zebo was from any other province he would not get such an opportunity. earls is no 13 and certainly not a 12 he's far better on the wing so why isn't cave in the centre. my only other slight concern is murray at 9
Posted 11:33 07th June 2012
Understand murray selection for physicality but still would have gone for Reddan. Also preferred BOD into 12 and leav Earls at 13. Look forward to seeing how 1-8 goes. Looks like a potentially longer term pack with the obvious addition of Ferris. Possibly would have liked SOB back to 6 with O'Mahoney at 7. Not a classic 7 but closer to it than any of the others, plus still have the fear that we underuse SOB at 7.
I am realistic and of course hope for an upset but would settle for a strong performance which gels this team together a bit and initiates a bit of momentum.
Posted 10:57 07th June 2012
What a biased selection. Why have our form players been dropped? Trimble has been outstanding all season and Darcy had his best season for years. Henry showed what a class player he is and Toner, who has not even been selected in the tour party a revelation. Gilroy was outstanding against the Baa Baas but Zebo who is very average and can't tackle gets selected, Murray who just isn't a scrum half gets selected when he is yet to play well for Ireland, how, why? Ryan is not an international sec row and like O'Mahoney is all bluster but no substance and unfortunately spends too much playing time in front of the ball and tackling players who have released the ball!! We have 7 selected from Munster? Earls is a class footballer but doesn't tackle as a centre and was useless when selected as wing, yet he is selected here. Idiocy! Please get rid of Kidney he is no judge of a rugby player and he keeps proving the point with his selections. What is O'Gara doing on tour, retire!
Posted 10:53 07th June 2012
Ouch Earls at 12 ,his defending is as bad as D'arcys ,i was hoping that either BOD or Cave would play 12 myself ,while Earls started on the wing ,where imho he is a class player.Though id still prefer J.Downey to be in the squad and starting lol,maybe next year(i hope).Atleast Cave is on the bench .Nice also to see Touhy starting instead of DOC ,well overdrew imo,and Zebo,and why Murray instead of Redden ??I would have thought any advantage would be grasped ,and a team combination at half back is one imo .Ross didnt make it then as Fitzpatrick is starting,lets hope he can scrummage as his sure to be really tested,and to be honest is a worry as Ross is the rock the irish scrum is built on.Lots of potential weaknesses imho in the irish team ,just hope that NZ cant take advantage .But even so i think this team is alot better than the 6Ns ones,except for the loss of Ross
Posted 10:39 07th June 2012
good team. We will lose but a good team nonetheless
at least he is trying something different
(i wouldn't be to sure about these cocky NZ blokes either if anything mcfadden and earls have defended well all season) I worry about zebo defensibly though, tough test for fitzpatrick against woodcock. if he can hold his own (unlikely) and murray can hurry the hell up with his passing should make for a good game, although i stand by my verdict we will lose. O'brien is 6 is something to be wary of, Just giving you cocky fan boys a little warning
Posted 10:10 07th June 2012
"When you're playing the world champions in their own back yard in the first game after the World Cup, you have to be on top of your game." ...What a profound statement from Declan Kidney! Does anyone remember Marietta biscuits? Dry, uninteresting, boring...Declan Kidney, along with Robbie Deans have to be the Marietta biscuits of rugby coach speak...has anyone told Declan Kidney that to beat any team you've got to be on top of your game. To me, this statement is making safe excuses already and lacks the swagger and belief a coach should be putting out there publicly if in fact the team have come to really win and the coach really believes that...Though the All Blacks have earned every cent of the respect they deserve, Ireland, through their coach are already showing too much respect (trepidation) from a match point of view...
Posted 09:57 07th June 2012
McFadden is going to get battered...where's bowe or trimble or that other ulster wing?? Earls is a good call at 12 attacking wise but defensively he's going to rely on either Sexton or O'driscoll closing in to make double tackles which will open holes in the defence...
Posted 09:52 07th June 2012
brave selection and big calls made by kidney and when you look at it, its close to the best 15 we have.....having said that am i missing something - Trimble and D'arcy ? are not even on the bench and no where have i heard they've been injured
Posted 09:34 07th June 2012
OH MY GOD..
Never mind what NZ are gonna do, Has Deccie been on the Steinlager, its a positively advernturous selection by his standards. Considering the injuries he had little room to manourve , but no D'arcy, O'Callaghan on the bench, going with Zebo instead of Trimble on the wing. Whatever the score, its a progression (of sorts).
All the Best to the Boys in Green COME ON IRELAND.
Posted 09:30 07th June 2012
Don't know what to make of this team, especially starting with the slower delivery of Murray at 9 to Sexton when you've got the pacy Earls outside at 12, weird! Sexton is going to spend his day defending instead of doing what he does best, attacking. Surely with this surprising centre partnership quick ball would be the order of the day...Ireland have the majority of our best successes with the BOD/D'Arcy partnership at 12 and 13, so why change this against the best team in the world in the first test?? Earls, one of Ireland's best finishers is now turning into a utility back and out of position and against SBW too, the only positions he hasn't played are scrum half and 10. If Ireland were going to take on the AB's with conviction they would have started with the fast Reddan at 9, D'arcy at 12 and Earls on the wing instead of the "reliable" McFadden who simply doesn't score enough tries. O' Mahony is more a 7 and should be played there to allow Sean O' Brien play in his most effective position of 6, maybe the plan is to swop them from time to time. Ireland may regret not bringing Devon Toner, at least on the bench, to compete with the huge Retallick in the line out which it now looks the AB's will dominate. As regards the scrum, Ireland are in for a potential mincing as tight head is a big problem area, but the good thing for Ireland is Nigel Owens is the ref and he will allow play continue if it's at the 8's feet instead of resetting. One thing Ireland do have with this pack is mobility and pace out wide so maybe that's the plan, to run the AB pack around for 80 minutes solid. The only schizophrenic thing about this plan, if it is the plan, is the crucial bad pairing of Murray with Sexton. As usual, Kidney in his mind already has O' Gara coming on and it could be embarassing watching SBW running in tries mowing down 12's who aren't 12's and ROG...Kidney!!
Posted 09:27 07th June 2012
Unsure why Earls is at 12. Maybe they see him as more of a defensive liability on the wing, there is at least cover provided defensively in the inside channel. SBW must fancy his chance, a lot will come down to the first tackle off first phase. Glad to see Kidney blooding new talent and at least breaking from the Irish habit of picking the same team until they die. At least the ABs don't know who Simon Zebo is, and SBW has not been doing homework on defending against Earls. If any Irish side is ever going to beat the ABs, we need a few kids in there who don't know how to lose to them .... over to you Zebo!!
Posted 09:25 07th June 2012