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The Cobus Visagie column

03rd October 2012 16:08

Cobus visagioe column 6 2012

DC: The greatest...ever?

Former Springbok prop Cobus Visagie shares his thoughts on the Rugby Championship in the sixth installment of a series of exclusive columns for Planet Rugby.

The late Danie Craven was asked once which position is the most important in a rugby team. His answer was that his tighthead prop is always the first player on the team sheet. He was then asked which position is the second most important to which he answered: the reserve tighthead prop.

Even as a man who played the position for more than a quarter of a century and who finds great satisfaction in analysing the intricacies of the battle between two packs of eight angry men, I have to admit that it is not the case anymore. The sad thing is that between the rule makers and the pressure from rugby illiterate television audiences that would prefer to not even see a scrum or the setup of a scrum, the importance of the set piece has been eroded over the last decade to the point where it is almost negligible compared to other aspects of the game. Part of the problem is that at the moment there is not a single recognised commentator who has played in the front row and who can give any credible explanation or insight into what is happening in the darkest of battles in any professional sport in the world. If people don't understand, they cannot appreciate the battle.

We can probably sit and debate this all day long, but my position is that the scrum is a very unique aspect of rugby that is fundamental to making it a game for all body shapes. It is a foundational part of the central equation that every coach needs to deal with to calculate the balance of speed and power in the composition of a team. The current situation is that a coach only needs to ensure that his pack can stand its ground, because it will only come back to bite you if you are seriously exposed. If every coach at every age level selected according to this philosophy, you are just creating a position for overweight loose forwards. Robbie Deans is in exactly this position this week - his hand has been forced to select four locks, with Sitaleki Timani being moved to the side of the scrum for extra security at scrum time. They will surely pay for this over the course of the game in terms of speed to the break down.

To be honest I have reached my wits end with the Australian front row and their survival tactics. They have perfected the front row jack knife. How a referee cannot pick up on the most fundamental scrum law - that you have to scrum with your shoulders above your hips - frustrates me endlessly. In the end they nullify the opposition's power, because they need to scrum upwards to just be able to stay on their feet. But there is justice in this world - sometimes - and they got seriously caught out this weekend with their sneaky plan to do multiple tactical front row substitutions and you have to give referee Roland credit that he picked up they exceeded their maximum substitutions.

A more important fact which this past weekend's games underlined was that the most important position on the field is the fly-half - and possibly your second most important position is your scrum-half. The return of Dan Carter was immense in unlocking the flow and potential of the All Black attack. Even though the All Blacks were stunned early on by the Argentinean attack, Carter took control of the game and annihilated the most passionate rugby team on the face of the planet at the moment, with precision and calm. He has lost none of his speed after his groin injury and it is clear that even the vastly experienced and immensely talented players around him thrive on playing with the most complete fly-half the world has seen. I believe the 2012 All Black team is a better team than the 2011 version and the main catalyst for the next level they have reached is Aaron Smith.

In the other game the arrival of the talented 20-year-old Johan Goosen transformed the Springbok attack, as many predicted. He is the real deal. The enormity of the occasion had the potential to destroy the confidence of a very talented young player, as was the case with Gaffie du Toit, but the composure he showed was way beyond his years. It is early days, but if ever South Africa had the player to challenge the supremacy of Dan Carter, the Goose is probably the man to do it. I do, however, need to mention, that the Wallabies made a massive error with their selection at fly-half and it was part of a series of management decisions that gifted the game to the Springboks in many ways.

You have to give credit to Ruan Pienaar (in the 2nd most important position) for the way he protected his Grey College junior. Pienaar seems to thrive when given more control and responsibility over the game - his performances for Ulster are testament to the fact. On the other, hand Australia has been found wanting since the injury of Will Genia who basically managed the team. (Quade Cooper absence didn't help either).

It is going to be a really special Test match in Soweto on Saturday, but I am very wary of South Africa's ability to stay on top of the game in the last quarter of the match. Even when the Wallabies were one man down in the last 10 minutes, the Springbok defence look lethargic and slow to get into position. It will cost them dearly against the All Blacks. A further problem in predicting the outcome of Saturday's game is that the All Blacks are chasing their 16th consecutive Test match victory and although they may deny that it is not on their radar to become the greatest rugby team of all time, I am sure Richie McCaw will move heaven and earth to achieve this accolade before taking time out for his sabbatical.

I would prefer more aggressive and agile players on the Springbok bench, like Craig Burden, who will play to the ball in the last 20 minutes of the game to slow it down. He would also be able to cover for the heavyweights who, out of necessity, have to stay on the field for the full 80 minutes. The All Blacks are favourites, because they have shown they can play the full 80 minutes and have the ability to even shift gears in the dying moments of the game. But one thing is for sure, the Springboks have lifted their heads and have confidence in their young general at fly-half.

The Aussies are playing without their regular generals and their pack looks unbalanced. At the Estadio Gigante de Arroyito this weekend we may just see the Pumas take a well-deserved scalp on home soil, which have so cruelly evaded them in the last number of games. But they will have to look after their possession and not kick away freebies to a hungry Wallaby back three.

Until next week, cheers!

Cobus

Follow Cobus on Twitter: @Drieman3

Visagie earned 29 caps for his country and was the cornerstone of the Springbok team that reached the 1999 World Cup semi-finals. He earned the nickname "Drieman", or three man, because he played number 3 and scrummed like three men. He won four Currie Cups with Western Province and earned 43 Super 12 caps with the Stormers.

In 2003 Visagie moved to London to join Saracens for whom he played in 121 games and was voted in the Premiership Team of the Season for three consecutive years.

Comments

hellovanite says...

Tony Johnson is the most bias commentator by a country mile, I'm a kiwi and he makes me cringe big time

Posted 07:35 06th October 2012

AWEBLAX says...

Very good article, I always look forward to reading this weekly column, agree with ruckingkiwi about the respect Cobus has for the ABs, and yes Richie will move heaven and earth to take this one out but JDV and co. will do the same to stop him, won't lie I want the boyz in black to win, but I also hope this game lives up to the hype of being the CLASH OF THE TITANS........

Posted 07:19 06th October 2012

ruggaluva says...

Cant Fault Carter as the best number 10 although i would love to have seen that calm exterior get flattened by a Henry Honibal tackle.... that shook the living daylights out many a opposition flyhalf. Also a pity that Wilkinson never got to realize his full potential due to incessant injury.

I must disagree regarding the scrums though... with the amount of penalties (deserved or not) accruing from scrums they still have an incredible importance and have determined many a tight game. i preferred the ELV's quick tap n go / free kick for some infringements though.

Goosen is still a work in progress... way to soon to be giving him such plaudits.

Posted 11:51 05th October 2012

quietbrit says...

Interesting column. I'm inclined to agree with the Scrum - I would like to see tighter enforcement of the contest - having an ex Front row in the TMO box advising would be a good way to start.

I would say that 9,10 are the most important IF you have a steady stream of possession.

Otherwise it is the man (or men) who win you that ball to work with. Some examples:

Victor Matfield - key to SA winning a WC for his lineout work. Richie McCaw - Key to NZ with his ball retention and fetching. Richard Hill (playing at 6) for Eng - won a world cup with his work in the rucks.

Each was surrounded by a great team but if I had to pick one man who makes that team the best of its day those are the men. Yes the men who turn possession into points are key to victory but they need the platform.

Posted 13:45 04th October 2012

APV1 says...

I susppose the key to the FR commentators is in CV's statement,

"Part of the problem is that at the moment there is not a single recognised commentator who has played in the front row and who can give any credible explanation or insight into what is happening in the darkest of battles in any professional sport in the world."

and what we all think counts as being "credible"...

Posted 13:41 04th October 2012

ruckingkiwi says...

I quite like these columns, he hinted at a little bias at the start but has ironed out his little attacks and generally speaks the truth. Maybe this is partially due to the respect Cobus shows NZ and the lack of respect he shows Australia :)

As for the commentary, I wouldn't consider Moore as a favourite but Phil Kearns takes the prize as most deserving of an upper-cut, the guy is hundred percent a clown.

Posted 12:24 04th October 2012

startledwombat says...

@lorenz78 - take a look at Steve Allen's video analysis on greenandgoldrugby.com

Also, some of the G&Grugby youtube videos have other useful links alongside, such as recordings of NZ scrum coaches giving advice to players

Cobus - thank you for your analysis, when I read your columns I get the feeling that the game of rugby comes first and nationality second - which is the way it should be. And even though you'd love to see the team you played for at #1 and winning all the time (of course).

I was a little surprised right at the end of the game between the Wallabies and South Africa. Springbok lineout, full-time hooter goes, beautiful ball off the top of the lineout, the South African halfback or wing immediately kicks the ball out. Whereas the All Blacks in that position would have run it through the backs and tried to hammer yet another nail in the Australian coffin. Why stop at full time when you are trying to make a statement and have the opposition on the rack? (Sorry about the cliches).

Anyway I thought it a little odd, and a clue that the killer instinct and situational awareness is not quite there yet for SA.

Posted 12:03 04th October 2012

porridge_time says...

melkdave...

You appear to regularly have a number of senior moments on a variety of subjects... maybe its not senile, maybe you're suffering from cluelessness;-)

Posted 11:29 04th October 2012

Trinats2 says...

Nothing like a one eyed saffa view !!!

"give referee Roland credit that he picked up they exceeded their maximum substitutions"

Not according to the IRB !!!

How come the weak Aussie pack had the Saffa pack in reverse in Perth ?

Posted 11:15 04th October 2012

markpat says...

@porridge_time - As other have mentioned, Brian Moore didn't win the RWC. Also, in the UK, not only does Phil Vickery provide analysis, but so does David Flatman.

I believe I've heard Craig Dowd commentating on NZ rugby as well?

One other thing, how did Australia make a massive mistake in their fly half selection against South Africa? Wasn't Beale viewed as Australia's best player on the day?

I disagree about fly half being the most important position. Openside flanker is, nowadays, as fly halfs are meaningless without the ball and opensides are the source of possession, that the tightheads used to be the most important position for.

Regarding Goosen - great talent, but shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence as Carter - more akin to Cruden, at this stage in their careers. Carter played for a while at inside centre, which is one of the reasons why his running and defence are so much better than most fly halves. He is also, by far, the best fly half that I have seen unders a high ball when covering the full back.

Posted 10:56 04th October 2012

lorenz78 says...

As a small back who never really understood what are those guys in the scrums doing, I appreciated the small advice about the hips/shoulders thing. I wonder wat are other keys to better understand scrummaging and first-row play, i.e.: what a prop does (or is supposed to do - and how does he cheat;-)) with the arm binding to the opposing prop: any forwards out there to explain?

Regarding the substitution issue, actually in another article IRB explains that the referee got it wrong - but it is not that clear about why he was wrong. What happened exactly?

Posted 10:53 04th October 2012

melkdave says...

@Leebok

Of course your right lol,annother senior moment im sorry to say

Posted 10:47 04th October 2012

Tamjon says...

@Oceansnz - I wouldn't exactly label what Phil Kearns dishes out as commentating, To be honest, I don't even know what you would call his irregular mono tone jibes.

Posted 10:42 04th October 2012

APV1 says...

@ oldschool - I owe you and your fellow Ozzies an apology. I, too, have been mentioning the substitution on other threads, having not seen the IRB statement.

Here it is for those who also haven't seen it:

http://tiny.cc/1scnlw

Whether Brian Moore won a RWC (he didn't) and whether he's biased (he is), he's still a reasonably good commentator and knows the FR.

Posted 10:06 04th October 2012

spliffed says...

I turn the sound down when Moore is commentating. His incessant whining is bloody irritating to say the least. The importance of the scrum has been diluted over the past 10 or so years and as an ex front rower I am delighted to see Cobus highlight this. Its a beautiful place inside a scrum :)

The Aussies got caught out in the 2007 world cup after much complaining by both the Kiwis and Boks about their scrumming method during the Trinations that year and refs looked out for it and they got penalised time and again which was why they went out so early. Its time the ball was put into the scrum down the middle of the 'tunnel' again and penalties awarded for not doing so. No need for a hooker otherwise

Posted 10:04 04th October 2012

jonesy2 says...

who is the genius who thought it was a good idea to give a former springbok, prop no less, a weekly column? was it just for giggles?

Posted 08:00 04th October 2012

porridge_time says...

New Zealand commentators in the ITM and Super Rugby include Craig Dowd and Ben Castle both accomplished props in their day. Like the late John Drake both are particularly good at explaining the nuances of the front row... especially when it comes to the lottery decision making of some officials.

Posted 07:21 04th October 2012

NHSaints says...

First paragraph = bull. Brian Moore ring a bell? Or perhaps England vs Ireland last 6nations would convince you the importance of the scrum is not gone.

Posted 07:00 04th October 2012

porridge_time says...

Was JW better in his pomp? No he was not... Carter is the complete package JW was pretty good, but not the complete package.

Posted 06:53 04th October 2012

leebok says...

Cobus, can you take the referee course and ref some games?

I still think there should be 2 refs on the pitch, 1 either side of the scrum and instead of everyone critisising refs about not knowing how the front row works, maybe teach them, get them to be a part of a front row in controlled conditions so they can experience what is involved and what they go through. Maybe front row should also have special jerseys with grips so the front row can bind properly and what ever happened to the specialised front row ankle boots with longer studs?

Posted 06:52 04th October 2012

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