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APV1 says...

@ Wallaroo - I'm looking forward to the "Team of the Super Semi-Finals" thread...

Posted 10:22 30th July 2012

tha_mai says...

Trinats2 - I merely quoted the NZ site to show a comparison, and added my opinion. Is that not allowed either? This is after all a forum. The NZ odds are exactly that - what a gambler can get in NZ, and as with most countries I suspect, they are skewed in favour of the locals - the odds get driven down on a heavily-supported side.

I don't gamble (and any Hurricanes supporter should also abstain imo!). Re Chiefs/Reds. Wow - isn't that what betting is about - a gamble? A risk?

Posted 00:46 30th July 2012

Trinats2 says...

tha_mai:

I see you use a kiwi site, an Aus site has different and I'm sure a saffa site will differ too. Is your site the same site that had the Crusaders to beat the Rebels ? or Chiefs to beat the Reds this year?

What odds did it have last year for Aus to win the Tri nations ?

Posted 12:57 29th July 2012

markpat says...

@Trinats2 - Currently I can't find odds on last place, however, current odds on wining are AUS 10/3 and ARG 66/1.

Now, if you fancy equating those odds for last place, I'd be happy to place a £50 at 20-1. £50 to you if ARG finish 4th and £1000 to me if AUS do.

If you want to put your money where your remarkably big mouth is? You can normally create the bet on the BetFair site at whatever odds you want.

Posted 04:32 29th July 2012

Wallaroo says...

APV1 - LOL, what a mediocre comeback. Time for you to step up mate -:).

Posted 10:29 28th July 2012

APV1 says...

@ Wallaroo - not so much a novice - I've been stirring for years - just bad at it!

;-)

Posted 15:32 27th July 2012

Wallaroo says...

Congrats Mr Genia on a well deserved player of the year award. Agree with some others that it really was a toss up between 2 Genia and Higginbotham, either would have been fair.

This article is to celebrate the rewards bestowed on a true champion, as usual the article has lost it's intent and celebratory intent which is a shame.

For once and for all. NB!!! APV1 is always stirring, unfortunately he is a novice at banter and therefore mediocre at best. Keep smiling and remember he's English (one of the reasons he does it speak it proper).

Trinats, mate there is a lot of freedom in giving praise, ask any New South Welshman one thing we have learned is there is honour in humility. BTW a disallowed legitimate try was compensated by a try resulting from a forward pass so factoring that in is also important but do agree that there were some other mitigating factors. Would that changed the result, I believe it may have but unfortunately not enough to have beaten the Sharks. Seriously mate, the ref didn't influence the game. Well not as far we are concerned in NSW (remember we were all shouting for QLD).

Posted 13:20 27th July 2012

ruckingkiwi says...

tha_mai, come down Auckland 1st XV or club rugby on Saturdays, it's a catfight between the aussie union and aussie league scouts.

Trinats says.. "Play the Reds v Sharks game again with Cooper in and not losing a 10 and hooker after 20 mins and Giena moving out of position, then there would be not shock result"

What he means is, the Reds need their foreign born players to be any good.

Posted 11:32 27th July 2012

APV1 says...

@ Trinats2 - it's always excuses isn't it? Can't you just accept that Aus get beaten, fair and square, on occassion? It's only a "shock defeat" to you. Most other Aussies manage to be gracious in defeat and accept that it happens.

Why, for example, did they lose the 2003 RWC Final? I'm sure you'll have some brilliant excuse and reason. When, in fact, it was because they just didn't score as many points as England. Nothing more complicated than that.

It's always, "...so-and-so was injured..." or "...coming off the back of a Super 15 game..." or "... the ref allowed a clear forward pass..." or "... the ref disallowed a clear try..." or some other lame excuse.

Just accept it:

AUSTRALIA GET BEATEN SOMETIMES. FAIR AND SQUARE.

Your incessant drivvel is mind-numbingly repetative and just nonsense.

Humble in victory, gracious in defeat. Remember that?

Posted 10:25 27th July 2012

darthbok says...

if youse-all had a choice , in a world 15 , would you pick Genia? -- personally i would pick ruan pienaar-- more physical, better defence, better kicking -- genia has the edge in attack though ----

Posted 08:43 27th July 2012